1. Why do electromagnetic compatibility design for products?

A: Meet the functional requirements of products, reduce the debugging time, and make the products meet the requirements of electromagnetic compatibility standards, so that the products will not produce electromagnetic interference to other devices in the system.

2. What aspects can you use for electromagnetic compatibility design?

Answer: circuit design (including device selection), software design, circuit board design, shielding structure, signal line/power line filter, circuit grounding design.

3, in the field of electromagnetic compatibility, why always use the decibel (dB) unit description?

A: Because the amplitude and frequency range to be described are very wide, it is easier to express it graphically with logarithmic coordinates, and dB is the unit of time expressed in logarithms.

4, on EMC, I do not know much, but now the speed of data transmission in circuit design faster and faster, when I made the PCB board, also encountered some PCB EMC problems, but I feel too submerged. I want to learn and study in this area. It doesn't follow the crowd. Whatever I learn is what I learn. I really feel that EMC is becoming more and more important in future circuit design, as I said earlier. I don't know much about myself, I don't know how to get started, I would like to ask, what to do on the EMC side, what basic knowledge is needed, and what basic courses should I study? How to learn is a relatively good path. I know that any one of my studies is not easy to learn. I never thought that I would engage him in a short period of time. I just hope to give some advice and try to avoid some detours.

A: Regarding EMC, it is necessary to first understand EMC standards such as EN55022 (GB9254), EN55024, and simple test principles. In addition, we need to understand the use of EMI components such as capacitors, beads, differential mode inductors, and common mode inductors. At the PCB level, you need to understand the layout of the PCB, the stack structure, the impact of high-speed wiring on EMC, and some rules. Another point is that there are some analysis and solution ideas for the emergence of EMC problems. These are the basic knowledge that a hardware person must master in the future!

5. I am a newcomer who has just been involved in PCB design. I would like to ask you about it. If I want to do a good job in PCB design, what knowledge should I learn more? In addition, where is the knowledge about safety regulations encountered in PCB design generally found? I look forward to your advice, be grateful!

A detailed overview of the classic 72 questions and answers for EMI and EMC design

Answer: For PCB design, you should master:

(1) Be familiar with and master relevant PCB design software such as POWERPCB/CANDENCE;

(2) Understand the specific architecture of the product being designed, and be familiar with the schematic circuit knowledge, including digital and simulation knowledge;

(3) Master PCB processing flow, process, and maintainable processing requirements;

(4) Master the knowledge of PCB board high-speed signal integrity, electromagnetic compatibility (emi and ems), SI, and PI simulation design;

(5) If the relevant work involves radio frequency, it is necessary to grasp the knowledge of radio frequency;

(6) For the PCB layout design, please refer to GB4943 or UL60950. The general insulation spacing requirements can be obtained by looking up the table!

6, the basic principles of electromagnetic compatibility design

A: Electronic Circuit Design Guidelines Electronic circuit designers often only consider the function of the product, but do not consider the function and electromagnetic compatibility. Therefore, the product also generates a large amount of functional harassment and other harassment while completing its functions. Moreover, sensitivity requirements cannot be met. The design of electromagnetic compatibility of electronic circuits should be considered from the following aspects: Component selection In most cases, the degree to which the basic components of a circuit satisfy the electromagnetic characteristics will determine the extent to which the functional units and the final device meet electromagnetic compatibility. The main criteria for selecting suitable electromagnetic components include out-of-band characteristics and circuit assembly techniques. Because whether or not electromagnetic compatibility can be achieved is often determined by the element response characteristics away from the fundamental frequency. In many cases, circuit assembly determines the degree of out-of-band response (such as lead length) and the degree of coupling between different circuit components.

The specific rules are:

(1) At high frequencies, it is preferable to use a leadthrough capacitor or a standoff capacitor with a small lead inductance to filter compared to leaded capacitors.

(2) When leaded capacitors must be used, the influence of lead inductance on the filter efficiency should be taken into account;

(3) Aluminum electrolytic capacitors may experience temporary dielectric breakdown of a few microseconds, so solid capacitors should be used in circuits with large ripple or transient voltages;

(4) Use parasitic resistors and capacitors with small capacitance. Chip resistors can be used for ultra-high frequency bands;

(5) The large-inductance parasitic capacitance is large. To increase the insertion loss in the low-frequency part, do not use a single-section filter. Instead, use a small-inductance multi-section filter.

(6) The use of magnetic core inductors should pay attention to the saturation characteristics, with particular attention to high-level pulse will reduce the inductance of the magnetic core inductance and the insertion loss in the filter circuit;

(7) Use shielded relays as much as possible and ground the shield case;

(8) Select an effectively shielded and isolated input transformer;

(9) Power transformers for sensitive circuits should have electrostatic shielding, and both the shielded case and the transformer case should be grounded;

(10) Shielded wires must be used for the interconnection signal lines inside the equipment to prevent disturbance coupling between them;

(11) In order for each shield to be connected to its own pin, a sufficient number of pins should be used.

7. Problems of Square Wave Pulse Drive Inductance Sensors

answer:

(1) In the signal testing process, try to perform in a shielded environment as much as possible. If inconvenient, at least shield the sensor and the front stage;

(2) Use differential probes as much as possible during the test, or at least minimize the probe's ground wire length. This can reduce the test error;

(3) Your circuit's actual operating frequency is not too high and you can reduce ringing through wiring. For the sake of better noise characteristics, the common-mode signal suppression problem should be considered. If necessary, a common-chirp reactor should be inserted. At the same time, attention should be paid to the noise of the switching power supply in the entire working environment and the power supply coupling should be avoided.

(4) If the sensor allows, you can use current amplification mode, which is conducive to speed and reduce noise. The analog switch is put as far as possible after the preamplifier. Although there is more preamplifier, the performance is improved a lot, and it is difficult to debug;

(5) If you are very mindful about the waveform, consider additional frequency compensation. If only digital detection, the operating frequency should be reduced. All in all, low frequencies can be low frequencies, and can be straight and straight;

(6) Note anti-aliasing filtering before AD conversion and software filtering to improve data stability.

8, GPS electromagnetic interference phenomenon: In particular, the GPS application in the PMP this product, the function is MP4, MP3, FM FM + GPS navigation features handheld car dual-use GPS terminal products, there must be a built-in GPSAntenna, so GPSAntenna with GPS terminal products on the MCU, SDROM, crystal oscillator and other components are likely to produce EMI / EMC electromagnetic interference, resulting in GPSAntenna's starfall ability decreased a lot, almost no way to normal positioning. What kind of measures can be taken to solve such EMI/EMC electromagnetic interference?

A: You can add ESDFilter above it to prevent static electricity and electromagnetic interference. This is the method used by our mobile customers with GPS functionality. The manufacturers who do these are Tektronix (Jie Rui), Jiabang, Korean ICT, and many others.

9. Almost all of the important signal lines on the board are designed as differential pairs to enhance signal anti-jamming capability. I have always had a lot of confusion: (1) Whether the differential signal is only defined in the simulation signal or the digital signal or there is a definition? (2) In the actual circuit diagram, how to analyze the frequency response of the filter on the differential pair, is it still the same as the analysis of the general two-port algorithm? (3) How does a differential signal carried on a differential pair convert to a normal signal? What is the signal waveform on the differential pair and how are they related to each other?

answer:

(1) A differential signal is a circuit that uses only two signal lines to transmit one signal. A circuit that depends on the voltage difference between signals can be either an analog signal or a digital signal. The actual signal is an analog signal, and the digital signal is only the sampled result of quantizing the analog signal with the threshold level. Therefore, differential signals can be defined for both digital and analog signals;

(2) Frequency response of differential signals, this problem is good. The actual differential port is a four-port network with differential and common mode analysis. As shown below. When the analysis frequency is corresponding, add the common-mode sweep source of the same polarity and the differential-mode sweep source of opposite polarity. The corresponding end needs to set the common mode voltage test point Vcm = (V1 + V2)/2, and the differential mode voltage test point Vdm = V1-V2. There are many articles on differential signal impedance calculation and principle on the network, you can learn more about it;

(3) The differential signal usually enters the differential drive circuit, and the differential signal is obtained after amplification. The simplest is the differential common-emitter mirror amplifier circuit, which has been introduced in general analog circuit textbooks. The following figure shows the spice circuit diagram and the output signal waveform of a differential amplifier device. It is generally required that they be completely inverting and that there is sufficient voltage difference greater than the differential mode voltage threshold. Of course, the signal inevitably has a common mode component, so a very important indicator of the differential amplifier is the common mode rejection ratio Kcmr=Adm/Acm.

10. I designed a speed control circuit for the DC magnetic motor of the unit. The power supply end is not ideal after using 0.33uf+Sharp TV inductor +0.33uf, and then use 4 inductors on the power supply side of the PCB board, but at 30~ Between 50MHz over 12db, how to deal with?

A: Generally, an LC or PI filter circuit performs better than a single capacitor or inductor filter. What do you mean by using 0.33uf+Sharp TV's inductance +0.33uf? Is radiation excessive? In what frequency band? I guess that in DC magnetic motor power supply loop, feedback noise amplitude is large, the frequency is low, inductance filter that needs a little larger value of inductance, and multi-stage capacitance filter are used, the effect will be better.

11, recently is trying to engage in a 0--150M, broadband amplifier with a gain of not less than 80DB, what issues should be noted in EMC?

A1: When designing a broadband amplifier, special attention should be paid to low noise issues. For example, the power supply must be sufficiently stable.

Answer 2:

(1) Pay attention to the impedance matching problem of input and output, such as common-base input and output, etc.;

(2) The issue of delisting at all levels, including high-frequency and low-frequency ripple;

(3) Deep negative feedback, as well as preventing self-oscillation and loopback self-excitation;

(4) Bandpass filter design issues.

A3: It is not easy to answer, and you cannot see the actual design. All suggestions are clichés: Note the three elements of EMC, pay attention to the conduction and radiation paths, and pay attention to the distribution of power and ground-borne noise. 150MHz is the analog signal bandwidth. How fast is the rising edge of the digital signal? If the turning frequency is also below 150MHz, individuals think that conductive coupling and power plane radiation will be the main considerations. Do a good job of power distribution, split and decoupling circuits. 80dB, the gain is high enough, do the isolation protection of the front very small signal and its reference power and ground, try hard to reduce the power impedance of this part.

12. Ask for EMC methods and matters in the design of low-power DC permanent magnet motors. Produced a 90W DC permanent magnet motor (110~120V, speed 2000/min) EMC has exceeded the standard, after the production of 16 slots to change the first 24 slots, there is a shaft insulation, failed to meet the standard! Now it is necessary to design and produce 125W The motor, how to deal with?

Answer: The EMC problem in the design of DC PM motors is mainly due to the ignition caused by the back EMF and commutation during motor rotation. For detailed analysis, RMxpert can be used to design and optimize motor parameters and Maxwell2D to simulate EMI actual radiation.

13. Is it possible to use the Impedance method? Or use a similar layered impedance RLC impedance? Or use designer design circuit and hfss collaborative work?

A: Concentrated resistors can be implemented with RLC boundaries; if they are thin-film resistors, they can be edited using surface impedance or impedance.

14, I am now in the shell with a ring of metal decorative parts of the machine to do static testing, the test encountered: contact discharge 4k 32k crystal no problem, air discharge 8k stop vibration problem, how to deal with?

A: If there is metal, air discharge and contact discharge effect is similar, it is recommended that you spray paint on the metal stent try.

15, we are now measuring PCB electromagnetic radiation is very troublesome, using the spectrum analyzer plus homemade near-field probe, first of all, not to say the problem of accuracy, just to meet the point of large voltage are very headache, for fear of damage to the spectrum analyzer. I do not know whether it can be solved by simulation.

A: First of all, EMI tests include near-field probes and far-field radiation tests. No simulation tool can replace actual tests. Second, Ansoft's PCB board noise and radiation simulation tools SIwave and any three-dimensional structure of the high-frequency structure. The simulator HFSS can simulate the near-field and far-field radiation of the board and the system, as well as the EMI radiation in a limited-shielded environment. The effectiveness of the simulation depends on your consideration of the EMI issues you have designed and the corresponding software settings. For example, differential mode or common mode radiation on a single plate, current source or voltage source radiation, and the like. With regard to some of our practices and experiences, the vast majority of EMI problems can be solved through simulation analysis. Compared with actual tests, the results are very good.

16, I heard that Ansoft's EMC tools generally simulate frequencies above 1 GHz. The clock line with the highest frequency on our board is only 133 MHz from the main chip to SDRAM, and most of the rest of the frequencies are KHz. We mainly use Hyperlynx SI/PI design, operation is relatively simple, but now the entire board of EMC is still exceeded, affecting the picture quality. In addition, does your tool have an interface with MentorPADS?

A: Ansoft's tools can simulate signals from DC to frequencies in the tens of GHz and above, but compared to other tools, lossy transmission line models above 1 GHz are more accurate. As far as I know, HyperLynx is mainly used for simulation of SI and crosstalk, as well as EMI radiation analysis of a single signal line. At present, there is no function of PI analysis. There are many reasons that affect the EMC of the board. Solving the signal integrity and crosstalk is only one aspect of EMC. The power plane noise, decoupling strategy, shielding method, and current distribution path all affect the EMC indicator. These can all be viewed in simulations using SIwave tools from Ansoft. In addition, ansoft's tools have interfaces with Mentor PADS.

17. Please explain when to use the split bottom layer to reduce the interference, and when to use the stratum partition to reduce the interference.

A: I haven't heard of the bottom layer. What does this mean? Can you give an example? Stratum separation is mainly to improve the isolation between the interference source and the interfered body, such as the isolation between digital and analog. Of course, segmentation will also bring signal integrity issues such as cross-segmentation. Using SIwave from ansoft can easily check the isolation between any points. Of course, to improve isolation, there are other ways, layering, decoupling, single-point connection, are methods, the effect of specific applications can be simulated with software.

18, the capacitor across two different power supply copper foil partition for high frequency signal backflow path, it is well known that the capacitor partition DC link exchange, the higher the frequency, the more smooth the current, my doubt is that most of the current access PCB level After considering the exchange, what does the capacitor pass as described above? Is "communication signal"?

A1: This question is a bit mysterious and has never seen a very convincing explanation. For AC, it is desirable that the power supply and the ground “short circuit,” but in reality the impedance between them cannot be really 0 Euro. The capacity of the capacitor you mentioned cannot be too large to reflect the principle of "earthing at low frequencies and grounding more frequently". This is probably the existence value of this capacitor. Frequently encountered such a situation: After two parts with their own power supply connected, generated some inconvenient interference, with a ceramic capacitor across the two power supplies, the interference is gone.

A2: This capacitor is used for voltage regulation and EMI, and it uses AC signals. "The current level of access to the PCB is mostly considered in exchange of the AC." Indeed, but do not forget, the digital circuit itself will generate AC signals and cause interference to the power supply, when a large number of switch tubes at the same time, the power supply The fluctuations caused are very large. However, in practice, this type of capacitor is mainly used as an auxiliary function to improve the performance of the system. If the design is good in other places, it may not be necessary.

A3: Communication is changing. For a so-called DC level, such as a power supply, because of the impedance of the wiring, when his load changes, the demand for power will change, either large or small. In this case, the "serial" wiring impedance will produce a larger or smaller voltage drop. Therefore, there will be an AC signal on the DC power supply. The frequency of this signal is related to the frequency responsible for the change. The role of the capacitor is to store a certain amount of charge energy nearby so that the energy required for this change can be obtained directly from the capacitor. Apparently, there appears to be an AC loop between the capacitor (which can now be considered a power supply) and the load. The capacitor plays the role of the AC loop, which is roughly like this...

19, the company has made a new mobile phone, in the 3C certification when there is a radiation indicator did not have, the frequency of 50-60M, more than 5dB, should be caused by the charger, add a few capacitors, the other is not, Capacitors are 1uF, 100uF. Is there any good solution (do not change the charger only changes the phone circuit). Is it possible to solve the problem by adding a capacitor to the input of the charger on the mobile phone?

A1: The increase of the capacitance is large, the small change is small, and the number of BITs is small, but the possibility of the battery is not large.

A2: You try to short-circuit and shield the ground of the frequency conversion inductor.

20, PCB design how to avoid high-frequency interference?

Answer: The basic idea of ​​avoiding high-frequency interference is to minimize the electromagnetic field interference of high-frequency signals, which is called crosstalk. The distance between the high-speed signal and the analog signal can be increased, or groundguard/shunttraces can be added next to the analog signal. Also pay attention to digital noise interference on the analog ground.

21. How to solve the conflict between high-speed wiring and EMI in PCB design?

Answer: Because of the resistance capacitance or ferritebead added by EMI, some electrical characteristics of the signal cannot be caused to fail to meet specifications. Therefore, it is best to solve or reduce EMI problems by arranging traces and PCB stacking techniques, such as high-speed signals going out of the inner layer. Finally, resistors and capacitors or ferritebeads are used to reduce the damage to the signal.

22, a number of PCB composition system, how to connect the ground between the boards?

Answer: When the signals or power between the PCBs are connected to each other, for example, the A board has power or signals sent to the B board, there must be an equal amount of current flowing from the ground back to the A board (this is Kirchoff current law). The electrical current in this formation will find its place where the impedance is the smallest. Therefore, the number of pins assigned to the ground must not be too low at each interface, whether it is a power supply or a signal interconnect, in order to reduce the impedance, which can reduce the noise in the formation. In addition, it is also possible to analyze the entire current loop, especially the part where the current is larger, and adjust the ground or ground connection to control the current flow (for example, to make a low impedance somewhere and let most of the current flow from this Go away) to reduce the impact on other more sensitive signals.

23, PCB design in the middle of the differential signal line plus ground?

Answer: In the middle of differential signals, it is generally not possible to add ground. Because the application of differential signal is the most important point is to use the advantages of the coupling between the differential signal, such as fluxcancellation, noise immunity. If the ground is added in the middle, the coupling effect will be destroyed.

34. What is the principle of properly selecting the point where the PCB and the housing are grounded?

Answer: The principle of choosing the grounding point of the PCB and the shell is to use the chassis ground to provide a low impedance path for the returning current and the path of the return current. For example, it is usually possible to use a fixed screw near the high-frequency device or clock generator to connect the ground of the PCB to the chassis ground in order to minimize the entire current loop area and reduce electromagnetic radiation.

25. In the case of a fixed board size, if the design needs to accommodate more functions, it is often necessary to increase the PCB trace density, but this may lead to increased mutual interference of the traces, while the traces are too thin to make the impedance Can not be reduced, please introduce the high-speed (>100MHz) high-density PCB design skills?

A: When designing high-speed, high-density PCBs, crosstalk is a real concern because it has a large impact on timing and signal integrity. Here are some places to pay attention:

(1) Control the continuity and matching of the characteristic impedance of the trace;

(2) The size of the trace spacing. It is generally seen that the spacing is twice the line width. The effect of trace spacing on timing and signal integrity can be known through simulation to find the tolerable minimum spacing. Different chip signals may have different results;

(3) Select the appropriate termination method;

(4) Avoid the same direction of the traces in the upper and lower adjacent layers, and even the traces just overlap one another, because this crosstalk is larger than the case of adjacent traces in the same layer;

(5) Use blind/buriedvia to increase the wiring area. However, the cost of manufacturing PCB boards will increase. It is indeed difficult to achieve full parallelism and equal length in actual execution, but it is still necessary to do so. In addition, differential termination and common-mode termination can be reserved to mitigate the impact on timing and signal integrity.

26. The filtering at analog power supply in PCB design is often using LC circuit. But why is LC sometimes worse than RC filtering?

Answer: The comparison of LC and RC filter effects must consider whether the choice of frequency band and inductance value to be filtered is appropriate. Because the inductor's reactance size is related to the inductance value and frequency. If the noise frequency of the power supply is low and the inductance value is not large enough, the filtering effect may not be as good as RC. However, the cost of using RC filtering is that the resistor itself consumes energy, has poor efficiency, and pays attention to the power that the selected resistor can withstand.

27. What is the method of selecting the inductor when filtering the PCB design?

Answer: In addition to considering the frequency of the noise to be filtered out, the inductance value must be considered. If the output of the LC has the opportunity to output a large current instantaneously, then too large an inductance will hinder the speed at which this large current flows through the inductor and increase the ripple noise. The capacitance value is related to the amount of ripple noise specification that can be tolerated. The smaller the ripple noise requirement, the larger the capacitance. The ESR/ESL of the capacitor will also have an effect. In addition, if the LC is placed at the output of a switching regulator power, attention must be paid to the influence of the pole/zero generated by the LC on the stability of the negative feedback control loop.

28, EMI issues and signal integrity issues are interrelated, how to balance the two in the process of defining standards?

A: Signal integrity and EMC are still in the draft. It is not easy to disclose. How to balance signal integrity and EMI? This is not a test specification. If you want to achieve a balance between the two, it is best to reduce the communication speed, but everyone denied.

29. How to achieve EMC requirements as far as possible in PCB design without causing too much cost pressure?

A: The increase in PCB cost due to EMC is usually due to the increase in the number of layers to enhance the shielding effect and the increase of ferritebeads, chokes, etc., to suppress high-frequency harmonic components. In addition, it is usually necessary to use shield structures on other organizations to enable the entire system to pass EMC requirements. The following provides only a few PCB design techniques to reduce the effect of electromagnetic radiation generated by the circuit:

(1) Select devices with slower slew rates as much as possible to reduce the high frequency components generated by the signal;

(2) Pay attention to the location of the high-frequency devices, not too close to the external connector;

(3) Pay attention to high-speed signal impedance matching, trace layer and return current path to reduce high-frequency reflection and radiation;

(4) Place adequate and appropriate decoupling capacitors on the power pins of each device to mitigate noise on the power plane and ground plane. Pay special attention to whether the frequency response and temperature characteristics of the capacitor meet the design requirements;

(5) The ground near the external connector can be properly segmented and the ground of the connector can be connected to the chassis ground nearby;

(6) Groundguard/shunttraces can be used appropriately next to some particularly high-speed signals. However, pay attention to the effect of guard / shunttraces on the characteristic impedance of the trace.

(7) The power layer shrinks by 20H from the stratum. H is the distance between the power layer and the stratum.

30. When there are multiple digital/modular function blocks in a PCB board in the PCB design, the conventional practice is to separate the number/modules. What are the reasons?

A: The reason for separating the digital/analog is because the digital circuit generates noise at the power supply and ground when the high and low voltages are switched. The noise is related to the speed and current of the signal. If the ground plane is not divided and the noise generated by the digital area circuit is large and the circuit of the analog area is very close, even if the digital-to-analog signals do not cross, the simulated signal will still be disturbed by the ground noise. In other words, the digital-to-analog non-divided method can only be used when the analog circuit area is far away from the area of ​​the digital circuit that generates large noise.

31. In high-speed PCB design, designers should consider EMC and EMI rules from those aspects?

A: Generally, radiated and conducted EMI/EMC designs need to consider both aspects. The former belongs to the higher frequency part (>30 MHz) and the latter is the lower frequency part (<30 MHz). So you can't just pay attention to the high frequencies and ignore the low frequencies. A good EMI/EMC design must take into account the location of the device, the placement of the PCB stack, the important online methods, the choice of devices, etc., if these are not pre-arranged in advance, and then resolved afterwards. It will work harder and increase costs. For example, the position of the clock generator should not be as close as possible to the external connector. The high-speed signal should go as far as possible to the inner layer and pay attention to the matching of the characteristic impedance and the reference layer to reduce the reflection. The slew rate of the signal pushed by the device should be as small as possible to reduce the high frequency. Composition, decoupling/bypass capacitors should be chosen so that their frequency response meets requirements to reduce noise in the power plane. In addition, pay attention to the return path of the high-frequency signal current to make the loop area as small as possible (ie loop impedance loopimpedance as small as possible) to reduce radiation. It is also possible to split the formation to control the range of high-frequency noise. Finally, select the appropriate chassis and chassis ground.

32. When PCB design, how to reduce EMI problems by arranging laminated layers?

A: First of all, EMI must be considered from the system. PCB alone cannot solve the problem. Cascading For EMI, I think it is mainly to provide the shortest return path of the signal, reduce the coupling area, and suppress differential mode interference. In addition, the ground layer and the power layer are tightly coupled, and the extension of the power layer is appropriate, which is good for suppressing common-mode interference.

33. Why PCB layout when PCB design?

A: There are several reasons for laying copper in general:

(1) EMC. For a large area of ​​ground or power supply copper, it will play a shielding role, some special, such as PGND play a protective role;

(2) PCB process requirements. Generally, in order to ensure the plating effect, or the laminate is not deformed, copper is laid on PCB layers with less wiring;

(3) Signal integrity requirements, a complete return path for high-frequency digital signals, and reduce the wiring of the DC network. Of course, there is heat, special device installation requires copper plating and other reasons.

34. Safety Regulations: What is the specific meaning of FCC and EMC?

Answer: FCC: federalcommunicationcommission US Communications Commission; EMC: electromegneticcompatibility electromagnetic compatibility. The FCC is a standards organization and EMC is a standard. The promulgation of the standard has its own reasons, standards and test methods.

35. When doing PCB board, in order to reduce interference, should the ground wire form a closed form?

Answer: When doing PCB board, generally speaking, the circuit area should be reduced to reduce interference. When grounding, it should not be placed in a closed form, but it is better to form a dendritic shape and there is a limit to it. May increase the area of ​​land.

36. How to avoid crosstalk in PCB design?

A: A changing signal (such as a step signal) propagates along the transmission line from A to B, and a coupling signal is generated on the transmission line CD. Once the changing signal ends, the signal is restored to a stable DC level, and the coupling signal does not exist. Therefore, crosstalk only occurs during signal transitions, and the faster the signal edge changes (switching rate), the greater the crosstalk that results. The coupled electromagnetic field in space can be extracted as a set of numerous coupling capacitors and coupled inductors. The crosstalk signals generated by the coupling capacitors can be divided into forward crosstalk and reverse crosstalk Sc on the victim network. The two signals have the same polarity; The crosstalk signal generated by the inductance is also divided into forward crosstalk and reverse crosstalk SL, and the two signals have opposite polarities. Forward crosstalk and reverse crosstalk generated by the coupled LC capacitor are present at the same time and are almost equal in size, thus enabling forward crosstalk on the victim network.

The signals cancel each other because of the opposite polarity, and the polarity of the reverse crosstalk is the same, and the superposition is enhanced. The modes of crosstalk analysis usually include the default mode, three-state mode and worst-case mode analysis. The default mode is similar to our actual cross-talk test method. That is, the infringing network driver is driven by the inversion signal. The victim network driver maintains the initial state (high or low) and then calculates the crosstalk value. This method is more effective for crosstalk analysis of unidirectional signals. The tri-state mode means that the infringing network driver is driven by the inversion signal, and the tri-state terminal of the victim network is set to a high-impedance state to detect the crosstalk size. This approach is more effective for two-way or complex topology networks.

Worst-case analysis refers to maintaining the victim network driver's initial state, and the simulator calculates the sum of all default cross-talk networks for each victim network. This method generally only analyzes individual critical networks, because the number of combinations to be calculated is too slow and the simulation speed is slow.

37. In the EMC test, it was found that the harmonics of the clock signal exceeded the standard, and only the decoupling capacitor was connected to the power pin. What aspects need attention in PCB design to suppress electromagnetic radiation?

A: The three elements of EMC are radiation sources, transmission routes and victims. The route of transmission is divided into spatial radiation propagation and cable conduction. So to suppress harmonics, first look at the way it spreads. Power supply decoupling is the solution to conduction propagation. In addition, necessary matching and shielding are also needed.

38. In the PCB design, ground lines are usually divided into protection grounds and signal grounds; power grounds are divided into digital grounds and analog grounds. Why should the ground wire be divided?

Answer: The purpose of the division is mainly due to EMC considerations. It is feared that the digital power supply and noise on the ground will interfere with other signals, especially analog signals through the conduction path. The division of signal and protection grounds is due to EMC ESD static discharge considerations, similar to the role of lightning rods in our lives. No matter what, there is only one final earth. It is just different ways of noise emission.

39. When designing a PCB clock, is it necessary to apply ground shields on both sides?

A: Whether to add shielded ground wire depends on the crosstalk/EMI condition on the board. If the shielded ground wire is not handled properly, it may even make the situation worse.

40. Does near-end crosstalk and far-end crosstalk have a relationship with the frequency of the signal and the rise time of the signal? Will they change as they change? If there is a relationship, can there be a formula to explain the relationship between them?

Answer: It should be said that the cross-talk caused by the infringing network to the victim network is related to the signal change. The faster the change, the greater the crosstalk caused (V=L*di/dt). The effect of crosstalk on the decision of the digital signal on the victim network is related to the frequency of the signal. The faster the frequency, the greater the impact.

41. When designing a PCB, there are two stacking solutions: Stack 1> Signal> Ground> Signal> Power Supply +1.5V> Signal> Power Supply +2.5V> Signal> Power Supply +1.25V> Power Supply +1.2V> Signal> Power Supply +3.3V> Signal> Power Supply +1.8V> Signal> Ground> Signal Stack 2> Signal> Ground> Signal> Power Supply +1.5V> Signal> Ground> Signal> Power Supply +1.25V+1.8V> Power Supply + 2.5V+1.2V> Signal> Ground> Signal> Power Supply +3.3V> Signal> Ground> Signal. Which stacking sequence is more preferable? For stack 2, will the two split power planes in the middle affect the adjacent signal layers? The two signal layers already have a ground plane to signal as a return path.

A: It should be said that both cascades have their own advantages. The first one guarantees the integrity of the plane layer, and the second increases the number of layers, which effectively reduces the impedance of the power plane and is good for suppressing system EMI. In theory, the power plane and the ground plane are equivalent to the AC signal. However, in practice, the ground plane has a better AC impedance than the power plane, and the signal preferably has a plane as the return plane. However, due to the effect of layer thickness, for example, the thickness of the medium between the signal and the power layer is less than the thickness of the medium between the layers, the signals in the second layer are also incomplete at the power source separation.

42, in the use of protel99se software design PCB, the processor is 89C51, crystal 12MHZ system also has a 40KHZ ultrasonic signal and 800hz audio signal, at this time how to design PCB to provide high anti-interference ability? For 89C51 and other microcontrollers, how much signal can affect the 89C51's normal work? In addition to increasing the distance between the two, is there any other skill to improve the system's ability to resist interference?

答:PCB设计提供高抗干扰能力,当然需要尽量降低干扰源信号的信号变化沿速率,具体多高频率的信号,要看干扰信号是那种电平,PCB布线多长。除了拉开间距外,通过匹配或拓扑解决干扰信号的反射,过冲等问题,也可以有效降低信号干扰。

43、请问在PCB布线中电源的分布和布线是否也需要象接地一样注意。若不注意会带来什么样的问题?会增加干扰么?

答:电源若作为平面层处理,其方式应该类似于地层的处理,当然,为了降低电源的共模辐射,建议内缩20倍的电源层距地层的高度。如果布线,建议走树状结构,注意避免电源环路问题。电源闭环会引起较大的共模辐射。

44、我做了个TFTLCD的显示屏,别人在做EMC测试时,干扰信号通过空间传导过来,导致屏幕显示的图象会晃动,幅度挺大的。谁能指点下,要怎么处理!是在几股信号线上加干扰脉冲群,具体是叫什么名字我也不太清楚,干扰信号通过信号线辐射出来的。

答:如果是单独的LCD,EMC测试中的脉冲群试验几乎是过不去的,特别是用耦合钳的时候,会够你受的了。如果是仪器中用到了LCD,就不难解决了,例如信号线的退耦处理,导电膏适当减小LCD入口的阻抗,屏表面加屏蔽导电丝网等。

45、 前段时间EMC测试,GSM固定无线电话在100MHz-300MHz之间有辐射杂散现象。之后,公司寄给我两部喷有静电漆的屏蔽外壳话机,实验室不准换整部话机,我就把喷有铁磁性材料的静电漆的外壳换到了要修改测试的话机上。测试结果显示以前的杂散现象没有了,但是主频出现了问题,话机工作的主频是902MHz,但在905-910MHz之间又出现了几个频率,基本情况就是这样。修改过程中,我只换了外壳,电路板和其他硬件都没有做任何修改。

答:话机种类可以理解为:无线手机、无绳电话等等。需要明确一下:话机的类型、主机工作频率范围以及机壳静电喷涂材料的类型:如铁磁类或非铁磁类导电材料以及导电率等。

46、使用ProtelDxp实心敷铜时选pouroverallsamenetobjects有什么副作用?会不会引起干扰信号在整块板上乱窜,从而影响性能?我做的是一块低频的数据采集卡,这个问题可能不需要担心,但还是想搞清楚。

答1:对于模、数混合的PCB板,模、数、地建议分开,最后再同点接地,如用“瓷珠”或0欧电阻连接。高速的数据线最好有两根地线平行走,可以减少干扰。

答2:pouroverallsamenetobjects对信号的性能没有什么影响,只是对一些焊盘的焊接有影响,散热比较快。这样做对EMI应该是有好处的。增加焊盘与铜的接触面积。

答3:实心敷铜时选pouroverallsamenetobjects不会有副作用。应该选择为铺花焊盘而不是实心焊盘,因为实心焊盘散热快,可能导致回流焊时发生立碑的情况。

47、请问什么是磁珠,有什么用途?磁珠连接、电感连接或者0欧姆电阻连接又是什么?

答: 磁珠专用于抑制信号线、电源线上的高频噪声和尖峰干扰,还具有吸收静电脉冲的能力。磁珠是用来吸收超高频信号,象一些RF电路,PLL,振荡电路,含超高频存储器电路(DDRSDRAM,RAMBUS等)都需要在电源输入部分加磁珠,而电感是一种蓄能元件,用在LC振荡电路,中低频的滤波电路等,其应用频率范围很少超过错50MHZ。

磁珠的功能主要是消除存在于传输线结构(电路)中的RF噪声,RF能量是叠加在直流传输电平上的交流正弦波成分,直流成分是需要的有用信号,而射频RF能量却是无用的电磁干扰沿着线路传输和辐射(EMI)。要消除这些不需要的信号能量,使用片式磁珠扮演高频电阻的角色(衰减器),该器件允许直流信号通过,而滤除交流信号。通常高频信号为30MHz以上,然而,低频信号也会受到片式磁珠的影响。

要正确的选择磁珠,必须注意以下几点:

(1)不需要的信号的频率范围为多少;

(2)噪声源是谁;

(3)需要多大的噪声衰减;

(4)环境条件是什么(温度,直流电压,结构强度);

(5)电路和负载阻抗是多少;

(6)是否有空间在PCB板上放置磁珠。前三条通过观察厂家提供的阻抗频率曲线就可以判断。在阻抗曲线中三条曲线都非常重要,即电阻,感抗和总阻抗。

总阻抗通过ZR22πfL()2+:=fL来描述。通过这一曲线,选择在希望衰减噪声的频率范围内具有最大阻抗而在低频和直流下信号衰减尽量小的磁珠型号。片式磁珠在过大的直流电压下,阻抗特性会受到影响,另外,如果工作温升过高,或者外部磁场过大,磁珠的阻抗都会受到不利的影响。使用片式磁珠和片式电感的原因:是使用片式磁珠还是片式电感主要还在于应用。在谐振电路中需要使用片式电感。而需要消除不需要的EMI噪声时, 使用片式磁珠是最佳的选择。

48、刚才是做硬件设计的工作。请教各位怎么样确定消除导线间串扰得电容容值。

答:在PCB布线时应该注意不要有太长的平行走线,尤其是高速或高摆幅信号。如果无法避免,其间保持足够的距离或者添加地线隔离。受体积限制和抗干扰要求高的部位可用金属屏蔽合隔离。

49、在实际做产品的时候发现了一个很头疼的问题。将开发的样机放在某个干扰很厉害的车上的时候,为了解决续流的问题,讲一个小电瓶并接在汽车的电源上(加了一个二极管防止小电瓶的电压被拉跨。)但是发现一旦与汽车的打铁地线一连接,终端就会被干扰。有好的建议吗?

答: 这是很明显的EMC问题,车上电火花干扰,导致你的终端设备被干扰,这个干扰可能是辐射,也可能是传导到你的终端。这个问题很多种原因:(1)接地问题, 你的终端主板上地线的走线问题,布铜的情况;(2)外壳的屏蔽问题,做好是金属外壳,将不是金属部分外壳用锡箔封上,可以一试;(3)线路板的布局,电源部分和CPU部分尽量分开,电源部分走线要尽量粗,尽量短,布线规则很重要;(4)线路板的层数比较重要,一般汽车上电子产品主板最好是至少4层板,两层板抗干扰可能较差;(5)加磁环,你可以考虑在做试验时在电源线上套上磁环。当然可能还有很多别的解决方法,具体情况可能不一样,希望对你能够有所帮助。

50、问在电路中,为什么在SCL、SDA、AS都串联一个电阻,电阻的大小在电路中都会有什么影响?

答:上拉是增加抭干扰能力的,一般取值Vcc/1mA~10K;串联是阻尼用的,一般取33ohm~470ohm,即当信号线上的脉冲频率较高时将会从线的一端反射到另一端,这将可能影响数据及有EMI,加串一个电阻在线中间将可有效控制这种反射。

51、品在做CE/FCC测试时,如果在200MHz时辐射偏高,超过可接受的范围,应该怎么消除,磁珠应该怎么选择,另外晶振倍频部分的辐射应该如何去消除。

答: 你谈到的问题实在是太简单,没有办法给与你一个非常准确的答复,不过根据我个人的经验,给点思考的方法。如果你能肯定是倍频,则主要对产生倍频的器件进行进行处理,这应该是有目标的,在处理是可以直接试一试,将产生倍频的器件进行一个简单的屏蔽(只需要用可乐罐做个屏蔽罩,关键是要注意接地)。在进行测试看看辐射值是否降低,如果降低则明确辐射的来源,在专门对其进行屏蔽处理。如果没有变化,则应重点考虑一下,露在外面的传输线,如果传输线能接地一定要接地,最好能采用屏蔽线试一试,看看有没有变化,以确认是否与传输线有关。最后就是箱体本身的屏蔽问题,这个问题比较复杂,而且成本较高,是在没有办法的情况才考虑解决的方式。这几种方式都尝试后,辐射值应该会降低的。

52、最近在写一个2KW的吸尘器软件,功能是实现了,但过不了EMC。请指点下,软件上面采用哪种算法,可以过EMC功能简述如下:(1)软起动和软调速功能。(所谓软起动也就是电机慢慢的加速,速度不会突变);(2)可以调节电机的转速;(3)是用可控硅控制电机的。控制方式是对正弦波斩波;在硬件方面,电路很简单,硬件处理EMC就只一个0.1uF的安规电容。

答:和硬件方面沟通,可能要多下功夫,单纯软件很难解决。

53、DECODER中的DA的转换频率从芯片里面顺电源和地辐射出来,为166M。我在电源上并了个1N,或630P,或30P但都屡不掉。两层板,电源回路很短,请给点建议,并分析下滤不掉的原因。

答1:电源的质量差(负载能力),DA应该单独用一个电源。

答2:首先检查输出端接地是否良好,在将信号输出端口串BEAD试试。

答3:我认为你可以将其地用100M磁珠损号166M高频。

54、 要做多路的温度采集,用的是K型热电偶,电源用电荷泵转换模块,信号调理部分想用AD620和OP07做二级放大,现在有几个地方不太有把握,请做过的帮忙!一是电源,我现在用12v电瓶供电,用电荷泵转换成+/-12v,这样的电压有一定的纹波,对信号的采集比较不利,是否该直接用电瓶电压做成单电源的呢?二是热电偶的两个信号端是否按AD620的数据手册上例子一样直接输入AD620的输入端即可,我看手册上还有EMIFILTER的部分,这部分对测量热电偶的情况应该怎么加进去呢?热电偶的冷端是该接地还是接一个稳定的电压呢?三,因为我要求的温度涉及到零下,因此AD620输出后要分别经过同相放大和反相放大再送入A/D端口,我打算用OP07制作二级滤波,一级是无限增益滤波电路,二级是同相放大2倍和反相放大2倍的滤波电路,不知道这样可不可以?

答:如你的热电偶的冷端接地(许多设备热电偶一端已接地),而且测温零度以下,你最好还是用+/-电源。这是通常的做法。电源的纹波要好,但不一定正负对称,你可再加稳定的LDO实现。低频滤波对结果很有影响,但一级滤波应能满足,EMI部分要看你的应用环境。对多路测温,你可将多路器放在放大之前以降低成本。多路器应要差分输入,热电偶输入导线也应是热电偶型的,挺贵的。

55、电磁兼容的一些基本问题:认证中经常遇到的一些EMC问题。

答: 下面是总结出来的一些针对于电子产品中的部分问题。一般电子产品都最容易出的问题有:RE——辐射,CE——传导,ESD——静电。通讯类电子产品不光包括以上三项:RE,CE,ESD,还有Surge——浪涌(雷击,打雷)。医疗器械最容易出现的问题是:ESD——静电,EFT——瞬态脉冲抗干扰,CS ——传导抗干扰,RS——辐射抗干扰。针对于北方干燥地区,产品的ESD--静电要求要很高。针对于像四川和一些西南多雷地区,EFT防雷要求要很高。

56、请问怎样才能去除IC中的电磁干扰?

答:IC 受到的电磁干扰,主要是来自静电(ESD)。解决IC免受ESD干扰,一方面在布板时候要考虑ESD(以及EMI)的问题,另一方面要考虑增加器件进行ESD保护。目前有两种器件:压敏电阻(Varistor)和瞬态电压抑制器TVS(TransientVoltageSuppressor)。前者由氧化锌构成,响应速度相对慢,电压抑制相对差,而且每受一次ESD冲击,就会老化,直到失效。而TVS是半导体制成,响应速度快,电压抑制好,可以无限次使用。从成本角度看,压敏电阻成本要比TVS低。

57、电磁干扰现象表现:尤其是GPS应用在PMP这种产品,功能是MP4、MP3、FM调频+GPS导航功能的手持车载两用的GPS终端产品,手持车载两用的GPS导航终端一定的有一个内置GPSAntenna,这样GPSAntenna与GPS终端产品上的MCU、SDROM、晶振等元器件很容易产生电磁干扰,致使GPSAntenna的收星能力下降很多,几乎没办法正常定位。不知道有没有GPS设计开发者遇到过这样的电磁干扰,然后采取有效的办法解决这样的电磁干扰,什么样的解决办法? ?

答1:我觉得这个问题主要出在电路设计上,多半是电路的保护跟屏蔽做的不好,我现在的客户已经没有这方面的困惑了,他们现在有两部分电磁干扰现象,但基本都已经解决,bluetooth的电磁干扰和遥控器的电磁干扰,解决办法:第1项我还没找到答案,第2项增大遥控器的有效距离到5M。

答2:各功能模块在PCB上的分布很重要,在PCBLayer之前要根据电流大小,各部分晶体频率,合理规划,然后各部分接地非常重要,此为解决共电源和地的干扰。根据实测,主要振荡源之间的空间距离对辐射影响很大,稍远离对干扰有明显降低,如空间不允许,有必要对其做局部屏蔽,但前提是在PCB同一块接地区内,然后对电源的出入口去耦,磁珠电容是不错的选择,蓝牙及GPS可印板电感。电源DC/DC的转换频率选择也很重要,不要让倍频(多次谐波)与其他电路的频率(特别是接受)重合,有些DC /DC频率是固定的,加简单的滤波电路就可以。同频抑制是引起GPS接受和遥控接受灵敏度下降的主要原因。还有,接受电路的本振幅度要调的尽量小,否则会成为一个持续的干扰源。我们将蓝牙,GPS接受,另一个2.4GHz收发器,433M遥控接收均继承在一个盒子内,效果还不错,GPS接收灵敏度很高。

58、 遇到一个单片机系统:(1)主控芯片摩托罗拉的MC908JL3;(2)8M陶瓷谐振;(3)电源采用连接线接入。现在是EMI中的传导电压在24M的位置单点超标0.8dB。请各位指点有没有什么好的方法抑制超标。列入加磁环、加Y2电容等。再有这个频率是传导范围还是辐射范围?

答:到底是EMI实验中24M超标还是做传导时24M超标,如果是前者的话就是辐射超标,若是后者则传导超标。

59、用双向可控硅控制直流电机的调速,但电机会干扰电源影响过零检则,造成不受控或速度妀变。请各位指教!

答1:出现这中现象的可能性有:(1)电机属于非阻性负载,所以电路中产生相位移动,导致控制不准,可以加电容过滤;(2)一般双向可控硅控制大功率或大电流负载,采用过零导通,而不是调相,可减少EMC的影响。

答2:流移相调速很常用的,如果过零检测的硬件部分没问题的话,就要仔细改进软件的处理方式了,在一个周期内(50Hz20mS)要处理两次可控硅的导通,检测到过零后的延迟输出时间决定你的移相角度。

60、 请问那位大侠做过V.35、E1、G.703(64K)、继电器接口的EMC设计?能否给点建议?主要要过下面几个标准:GB/T17626.12(IEC61000-4-12)电磁兼容试验和测量技术,振荡波抗干扰度试验;GB /T17626.2(IEC61000-4-2)电磁兼容试验和测量技术,静电放电抗干扰度试验;GB/T17626.3(IEC61000-4-3)电磁兼容试验和测量技术,射频电磁场辐射抗干扰度测试;GB/T17626.4(IEC61000-4-4)电磁兼容试验和测量技术,电快速瞬变脉冲群抗干扰度试验;GB/T17626.5(IEC61000-4-5)电磁兼容试验和测量技术,浪涌冲击抗干扰度试验;GB /T17626.6(IEC61000-4-6)电磁兼容试验和测量技术,射频场感应的传导骚扰抗干扰度。

答:这些标准都是EMC测试的一些基础标准,还需要结合你的产品确定具体指标。你的这些接口是通信接口,一般有标准电路。当单板原理图滤波设计、PCB的正确布局布线设计的时候,一般都可以通过测试,其他情况下需要增加EMC滤波、瞬态抑制器件,这需要结合具体接口分析。

61、布线不能跨越分割电源之间的间隙,哪位大虾可以给个详细说明啊?

答:如果一个电源层被分割成几个不同的电源部分,如有3.3V、5V等的电源,信号线最好不要同时出现在不同的电源平面上,即布线不能跨越分割电源之间的间隙,否则会出现不必要的EMC问题,对地也一样,布线也不能跨越分割地之间的间隙。

62、 现用单片机通过达林顿管、光藕控制一12V继电器来控制交流接触器的吸合,在吸合瞬间常导致单片机复位,通过示波器测复位脚,能检测到有效复位信号(使用三脚的复位IC)。单片机使用5V供电,5V稳压管前后均已接1000uF电容,且用示波器检测未发现电源波动。另外,如果继电器空载(不接交流接触器) 则未发现复位现象。请问各位该如何解决?

答1:可以在交流接触器线圈两端并联一电阻和电容串联的阻容吸收回路,电容的容量在0.01uF~0.47uF之间现在,耐压最好高于线圈额定电压的2~3倍,看这样行不行?

答2:这个应该是交流接触器动作时产生的EMC干扰所致。楼上朋友的阻容吸收是个不错的解决办法,同时也可以考虑在12V继电器的输出触点并联100P到47P的高压电容试试。

答3:在交流接触器加RC吸收是有效的。但是你还的检查你的电源回路,看看你的CPU电源走线是否太长,尽量在芯片的电源脚上并去偶电容,还有就是稳压部分也可以加LC吸收回路,尽可能的吸收来自电源的干扰。

答4:先不带负载看看是否有同样现象出现,分级判断排出问题。可先不接光藕,再不接继电器。如果不接光藕还是出现复位,查查硬件输出端口是否和复位有短路,如果没有复位,可以接光藕但不接继电器。

还出现复位可能的情况是地线太细,复位脚的地离光藕太近而且远离电源,光藕的限流电阻太小,导致地电位瞬

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